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#11
Sea Salt Cafe / Re: A Cool Website For Pixel A...
Last post by Tinc - Mar 21, 2026, 07:25 PM
Oh!! This is cool :D

I'll have to check it!

(Esp with my new interest in Picotron and retro/fantasy interfaces, I've been considering getting into pixel art :3c)
#12
Sea Salt Cafe / A Cool Website For Pixel Artis...
Last post by Slumber - Mar 19, 2026, 07:44 PM
Just learned about this place today: https://pixeljoint.com/

As they describe it: "Pixel Joint is a community dedicated to pixel art. If you are a pixel artist or just a pixel art fan it's worth registering so you can add comments, save favorites, rate pixel art, engage in the forum and submit your pixel art creations."

It has a submissions gallery and a forum of its own! I definitely want to spend some time here in the future.
#13
Sea Salt Cafe / Re: Valour: Another Discord Al...
Last post by Slumber - Mar 14, 2026, 03:14 AM
Quote from: Tinc on Mar 13, 2026, 01:28 AMOkay, never mind. I went to do some cursory investigation to see what their contribution guidelines are and this took me 2 seconds

AGENTS.md in the repo has guidelines for AI Agents working on their codebase (basically like a README. I was actually looking for a CONTRIBUTING dot md, which is typical in open-source projects for *human* contributors to know the process for submitting code).

Ugh, then that's enough for me. No matter how well meaning, making a platform off of AI is untrustworthy. Assuming the AI bubble doesn't pop and the tech is around forever, it will certainly not be as easily available forever. I am positive they will start raising the prices on their tech and making it harder and harder for people to access and use. The elites are never happy to share something that is actually valuable. Which means that one day the people making this platform with AI will no longer have access to the tools to continue building and maintaining it. And then no human person or team will be able to pick up the project. It's dead before it even gets to live.
#14
Sea Salt Cafe / Re: Valour: Another Discord Al...
Last post by Tinc - Mar 13, 2026, 01:54 AM
I am watching the video now to give it a good shake, and I agree--I think he's hitting a lot of good points and has a lot of good thoughts and directions for the project.

This is really tough...
#15
Sea Salt Cafe / Re: Valour: Another Discord Al...
Last post by Tinc - Mar 13, 2026, 01:28 AM
Okay, never mind. I went to do some cursory investigation to see what their contribution guidelines are and this took me 2 seconds

AGENTS.md in the repo has guidelines for AI Agents working on their codebase (basically like a README. I was actually looking for a CONTRIBUTING dot md, which is typical in open-source projects for *human* contributors to know the process for submitting code).
#16
Sea Salt Cafe / Re: Valour: Another Discord Al...
Last post by Tinc - Mar 13, 2026, 01:24 AM
The broken links and weirdly unfinished stuff does sound like a hallucinating genAI output...

I haven't dug into genAI code generation at all, nor have I had to read any, so I can't say from my experience *but* from what I've been reading about it on Fedi, programmers have had a hard time telling "genAI garbage" from "human-made garbage" and combing through genAI-generated code that has been submitted to them has been a huge cognitive load.

Maybe it can be easier if the task is "tell if this is genAI or not" vs "this patch got submitted and I need to figure out how to fix it"
#17
Sea Salt Cafe / Re: Fantasy Computer Interface...
Last post by Tinc - Mar 13, 2026, 01:14 AM
OH GOSH! So I haven't watched Serial Experiments Lain yet, and it's been on my "to watch" list for.... far too long (totally not decades ;>_>)

I will definitely have to watch it now.

What I do know about Lain is that it also has a VERY obscure programming reference Lisp nerd love to get excited about--the scene where a character uses a PDA like device and is programming something in Common Lisp. (I had a false memory this was supposed to be an Apple Newton in the show, but I just confirmed it was a custom in-universe device. I'm guessing then the discussion I read at the time was suppositioning this is likely a *reference* to the Apple Newton which used a Lisp-dialect for programming).

I didn't allude to it in this post when I made it here and elsewhere, but I've been trying to wrangle this feeling I've been having around UX and computing lately and been trying to confirm and research it.

A Diinki video I watched finally hit the nail on the head for me, where they talk about retro computing devices being more free and experimental as a "norm" hadn't been settled on yet.

And I think that's what I miss--I feel like most Anime and other media I watch, especially in modern/current day settings, have been more often showing a UX that more resembles what we have now (Windows/Mac/iOS/Android/etc).

It's kinda instilling 2 desires in me

1. Go back to using really weird and really custom Linux Windowing environments, and this time get really *weird* with it
2. ...start researching depictions of computing interfaces in media and doing an essay about it :sweat:

But as much as I'm *convinced* this is a thing....I couldn't recall more than those two examples??? I need some more places to start (and search on the internet is garbage these days, so gotta do things the old fashioned way *rolls up sleeves* )

Edit: and OH YEAH, seeing Picotron is *not helping* I'm really tempted to buy it and start messing around with it
#18
Sea Salt Cafe / Re: Valour: Another Discord Al...
Last post by Slumber - Mar 12, 2026, 02:40 AM
Okay I will say looking at his YouTube channel he loves to use genAI imagery which annoys me...but I'm willing to forgive it for now if there's no AI focus on the platform itself.

EDIT: Ugh, okay but the site explaining Valour is also so unfinished. I tried clicking on all of the links in the footer and some flat out don't lead anywhere. The documentation link even loads a page that goes no where. Now I have to wonder if the site was made with AI, and if that means so is the platform. It's open source so someone with coding knowledge should be able to tell, at least.
#19
Sea Salt Cafe / Re: Valour: Another Discord Al...
Last post by Slumber - Mar 12, 2026, 01:36 AM
Okay well I just took the time to watch the video of the guy who started it and honestly I'm sold. He seems solid, the way he talks is logical, he seems kind, he knows what he wants, he has a community he's running on it. I don't see any reason not to at least try it. And I'm very excited by the kinds of things it's capable of doing. I think it could be a worthwhile addition to the forums as a community space, at least.

#20
Sea Salt Cafe / Re: Valour: Another Discord Al...
Last post by Slumber - Mar 12, 2026, 01:05 AM
I made an account and didn't even set up a site, LOL! I'll probably have time next week, though. I need to manage my time better between all my projects...hmm...